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Any chance of an update AdamH, or are you currently working on the next contest?
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No. I'm working on my university thesis.
No update till May 16.
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Cool, May 16th seems fine to me, since that's right after my exams... that'd give me a chance to see all the cool stuff I haven't been able to check out yet. Good luck with that thesis.
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yes, good luck on the thesis and the exams. :)
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gl, hf
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Re: Update?

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If you don't want to wait for the next update, you can get the new demos from:
ftp://competn.doom2.net:8002/incoming/compet-n/

Er, that's not meant to be a closely-guarded secret, is it?
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Nope, you can get demos from there anytime you want.
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Re: Update?

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No. I'm working on my university thesis.
No update till May 16.
Well?
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I'm sure it's being taken care of, gradually.  There's almost 200 demos to sort through and the next leg of the contest might also be in the works, so I'm sure our patience will pay off.   :)
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Though we haven't heard from Hegyi yet, so maybe it's not happening.

[EDIT] Was informed that after his thesis there's also a trio of exams to finish in the next 3 weeks... so we might be waiting a while.

GL Hegyinator!
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Bah, I have six exams in the next two weeks and I managed to take two days off to go see Radiohead the other night. That boy's problem is he just tries too hard ;)
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*bump*
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Yeah, it's close. I just waved university goodbye today (umm, in a good way. I graduated). Which means, tomorrow I'm spending the day doing nothing. Then Saturday I'm celebrating my birthday and graduation with friends (massive intoxication expected). Sunday I'm having a hangover, so that leaves Monday and the following to get an update done, with a new contest coming (that should be fun). So expect an update _next week_.
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Sure you don't mean in Two Weeks? :)
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maybe he's still intoxicated. 8)
congrats on the gradu-lar-ation, btw.
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Wheeee graduatiooooon

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Guess that means I'm not the only one that graduated! ^_^ But I'm sure it's different from graduating from college than it is from high school =)

Anyway, here I am, stuck in Ellensburg, Washington, and the update is gonna be happening soon.....my luck sucks =P Congrats though Hegyi on graduating! And don't party TOO hard.... ;)
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A quick status report, apparently the update is done so now all Adam has to do is find a contest map.

Almost there, folks!
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Man, that's HUGE! 8)
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I'm curious about something. I notice that DooMerMan's 1326hr01 has been accepted as a valid movie run, even though he used a suicide exit on map09. Have the rules changed? Vile's text for his 1228pl11 seemed to suggest that he considered a suicide exit on map17 to be against the rules, and I vaguely recall the FAQ previously making it clear(ish) that you couldn't die before the end of a movie run.
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Suicide exits are allowed in movies. What is not allowed in any kind of run, is initiating a player respawn yourself. Whatever the engine does to you is not your concern.

In coop this is slightly different, suicide exits are still allowed but lying around the level dead just to spawn on the next one is not (that wouldn't be much of a coop).

By the way, back in early '99 there was some talk whether it would be useful to use a suicide exit in e4nm's E4M1-E4M2 transition (usually the exit health is quite low), but I dropped the idea eventually for my run as I figured E4M2 NM can be done even from 1% health with the proper tactic.
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Back then I wasn't completely clear on the rules, so a nice 2 minutes improvement on that movie could come from the use of that trick... anyone? :)
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Thanks for the clarification. It's nice to know, e.g., that Yonatan Donner's 30hr2843 TAS run is valid by compet-n rules - I'd been assuming it wasn't (due to the exit from map23).

Talking of coop and Plutonia map17, it occurs to me that there might be scope for a really fast coop speed run there.
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I suggested this to Doomerman - at first we both thought it might be against the rules, then checked around and found it wasn't, so he did it. :)
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Re: Update?

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*twiddles thumbs waiting for next update*
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Re: Update?

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Q: When is the next update due?

A: Ahh, the biggest question of philosophy! When it's done, of course.

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o.O

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Looks like we're getting a trend started here XD!
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Hey, has Compet-N died or what ??? No update for such a long time...I was expecting the update back on the 1st of January as every year, but now when I look into the calendar it's already 19th of March and still nothing...what's going on ? I bet i'm not the only one who would like to know...
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Status: I've done the database updates today (~2 hours work). Gonna continue with preparing for the cybers tomorrow. Speaking of which, it wouldn't be bad if anyone could give a hand finding *new* tricks discovered in 2003... so we could see if it's worth including the category at all.
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Trick

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One trick I'm certainly aware of is mine for Memento Mori II map 27, with the switches and such.

Um... although I can't remember any of the other tricks, but I think someone made a post somewhere that talked about some of the other tricks done in 2003
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ep30-204, ac03-059, hr09-103, av25-129 (although these tricks were known for the previous version of AV), m209-059.

Those five were found searching for "trick" in the 4 updates of last year, that's enough for a single vote... probably others not advertised as trick runs.
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Drew, how could you forget your av20-436? Okay, so the trick had been "known" for some time, but your demo was the first to exhibit a successful implementation of it. :-)
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In AV, everything except av07-109 and av26-035 (those were in competition in last year's event) is in.

Thanks for the lists. ;)
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Re: Update?

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I found trick in rq28..
HeHeHeHeHEHEHEHhhhhEEEhhehehehehehehheehhehhehe
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o.O

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No you didn't Method... you only THINK you did.... it's aaaaaaaaall in your head.... really..... XD

rq28 trick? Tell me which demo and I'll watch it =)
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rq28-059  ;)
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if you want to check another trick, see rc28-033, it's a coop trick, but maybe a monster can push u a bit ?
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Status: I completed all the pages necessary for the Cyber Awards (honestly, it was shitloads of work).

Here is the list of tricks I found so far:
ep30-204, ec02-011, hr09-113, rq28-059, mm27-354, m230-104, av20-436, av25-129, av29-129, ac03-059.

Vincent: Right, that's a 2004 demo though, so it'll be featured in next year's awards. Nice trick though - it can be done with a RJ but I have no idea at the moment how feasible that is.
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Status: I completed all the pages necessary for the Cyber Awards (honestly, it was shitloads of work).
I bet so :=)
Will there be a vote to select the nominees or they have already been selected ?
Vincent: Right, that's a 2004 demo though, so it'll be featured in next year's awards. Nice trick though - it can be done with a RJ but I have no idea at the moment how feasible that is.
/me slaps on the forehead :)
/me is dumb sometimes :)
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Here is the list of tricks I found so far:...
Hmm.. what about Eugene's av23-045? (Nice AV jump!)

Casey's m227-029 was uploaded in February 2003...

And DooMerMan's map 11 trick(s)? (lv11aj and cp11-3ck) Maybe those two don't count since they're not point awarding?
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Please don't forget Erik Alm's ap25-133 (bars glide), where he shows a different possibility to get the red key as in av25-129 (AV jump).
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Thanks all.
Maybe those two don't count since they're not point awarding?
Yeah, someone would need to upload a proper coop demo featuring the trick.
Will there be a vote to select the nominees or they have already been selected ?
There will be a nomination phase as usual, of course, the bulk of the work I've done was getting the lists done where you could choose the nominees from.
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Hm

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Dunno if anyone mentioned it, but m226's AV jump....

=EDIT=
I overlooked it, but the ev02 AV jump was already mentioned =P
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Yeah, someone would need to upload a proper coop demo featuring the trick.
I guess we could give it a try, but it looks really hard to pull out (coordination-wise). And also do not seem to gain so much time in a regular UV demo... maybe 2s.

Adam > would you need nomonsters or UV demo ?
         
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would you need nomonsters or UV demo ?
You could upload a nomonsters demo to show the trick, I don't see much point in that, as the trick was already shown by DooMerMan.
To get a point or to be able to be nominated next year you'd have to do it UV or NM.

The coop record is somewhat behind the single time so I guess you could beat it with this trick, however you're right that it doesn't save much compared to the normal coop route (in fact, with the trick both players would need a shotgun while the normal route only requires the exit guy to get one).
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that brings a question to mind :

Does a trick (any trick) requires to be a record beater to be featured in the cybers ?

The trick could be really impressive but impossible in a real run (like Selim's map29 end RJ or Rimmer's map05 RJ). Such kind of tricks should be featured in the Cybers ?
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Re: Update?

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What about "old" Alien Vendetta tricks? For example Map02:
Anders did in his NM runs for both AV versions the "same" yellow keygrab. But the map has slightly changed, so these are "different" tricks, or not? I don't know. What do you think?
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well i think the first c-n demo that uses the trick is the one which counts.  Misc demos and demos from other sites don't count.  So perhaps ocelot's lv10-025 is a "new" trick?
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Re: Update?

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The trick you are talking about was found by Bolton back in 2000.
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Yes but it was never used in a real c-n demo i believe.
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Re: Update?

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Back in 2000 there was no Cyber Awards ;D

With older tricks getting their first proper C-N run this year: they will be part of the nominations this year, obviously, the originator and the uploader will share credit.
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Re: Update?

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Expect the full update over Easter weekend (It's better for me to set a deadline so things actually get done :D)
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quick note; I was looking through the AV pwad table and noticed Viles av17-238 max record is not listed
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Expect the full update over Easter weekend (It's better for me to set a deadline so things actually get done :D)
great news !

/me feels 8)
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The weekend has passed.


Well? *taps foot on ground*
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easter weekend 2004?  :P
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Easter Weekend lasts three days in my country, I don't know about yours.
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o.O

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Easter ends on the Sunday....

Hegyi's just trying to cover his ass XD j/k

Hope to see the update soon, and continue to enjoy your Easter on this "third day of the Easter weekend" =P
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But but see, if you look, the US isn't on there, so.... you've no excuse Hegyi  :D :P

Of course, I'm just happy to know the update is just right around the corner.... waiting to jump at me and give me a heart attack o.O
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But but see, if you look, the US isn't on there
I don't give a rat's ass about the US.
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Re: Update?

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I don't give a rat's ass about the US.
Yeah, the US sux, it's not a nice country to live in. Thats why I don't plan to live here very long.
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Re: Update?

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Done.

Post bugs here, I'll exterminate them tomorrow evening.
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Re: Update?

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[EDITS]

1. Awards ceremony says March 9th, I imagine May 9th is the real date.

2. lv06-240 and lv06-222 in the max noms page are named lv04.
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Re: Update?

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sweet, the update is my birthday present :)
I am born on april 12, 1977 :)))

thx Adam :)

EDIT : I spotted plenty of mistakes in the coop tables .. I'll make alist and mail or post it (this does not only includes my demos but some other people too :)
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My mm151021 has nothing to do in the Best -fast category because it is not a -fast demo, just an UV that does not beat the existing record(realized that too late, sorry).
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Re: Update? / nitpicking

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The first line says "the second time around".
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Re: Update?

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All fixed (those I got in mail, too).

Vincent: I hope it's not the Cyber coop list...
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Vincent: I hope it's not the Cyber coop list...
no, I was just speaking about the tables :-)

Btw, coop should have :
- Best coop NM
- Best coop Max
- Best coop Speed
- Best coop movie

just suggestions :)
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Re: Update?

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The link to my e3m5 run displays the wrong time, and it is actually a link to e2m3 speed
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Re: Update?

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You forgot to add my form :)
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Re: Update?

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Kim "Torn" Bach is listed as eligible for both "Best New Player" and "Most Improved Player".
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Fixed.

Ryback: I'm afraid I lost your mail, please re-send and I'll do it right away, promise  8)
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Re: Update?

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Uploaded Ryback's form here.